MBTI Type Of Elliot From Mr. Robot

I finished binge-watching Mr.Robot on Amazon Prime all the way from season 1 through season 4 just in a matter of a week. It is a pretty good show, I must say. But one question which got in my mind is what MBTI type Elliot Alderson is? Well, even though I have written MBTI in the title, I would actually elaborate more in terms of Jungian Cognitive Functions on this post.

So spoiler alert (!), as I am about to give away some key points from the storyline. So if you have not watched the show all seasons already, do so before you read this post. So run!

And without any further ado, here we go-

Some people on Quora labeled Elliot as an INTJ.

Both INTJs and INTPs dominate the technical fields and both types are mostly lone wolves. Some of them can have social anxiety. But Cognitive Functions wise, they are vastly different people.

If you wish to learn about Jungian Cognitive Functions, check this answer I wrote on Quora or read my other answers about Jungian Types. You can also ask me questions there.

But let’s get back to the topic.

Well, first of all, he has a Dissociative identity (aka multiple personalities) disorder. So he is perhaps unable to fully utilize his dominant four functions. So even if he is an INTJ, he is not normal.

Out of his two distinctive personalities which co-exist the majority of the time- Elliot (himself) and his ideal parent figure Mr. Robot are INTP and ENTJ respectively. That is the only combo that makes sense to me in terms of cognitive functions. Let me explain to you elaborately:

INTP’s cognitive functions: Ti>Ne>Si>Fe

ENTJ’s cognitive functions: Te>Ni>Se>Fi

So as you can see, ENTJs and INTPs are opposite of each other in terms of cognitive function stacks.

To me, it seems clearly visible that, while his parent figures the imaginary Mr. Robot is the commander in chief, a true competitive go-getter just like an ENTJ should be, Elliot as a child is still quite analytical, hence he is an INTP.

The imaginary Mr. Robot always lectures Elliot about what is practical, at times treats him quite aggressively and even makes important decisions for him or carries out actions (even in his absence of mind). I am not saying that all ENTJs are aggressive like Mr. Robot. But Mr. Robot is too action-oriented to be any other type.

Most INTPs I know are gifted in cybersecurity and computer programming, etc. INTJs are great too, but not in the same way as INTPs are.

INTP’s first two functions are Ti and Ne which enable them to make, break or troubleshoot complex computer security systems.

Also, some fans in Quora and Reddit are saying how he uses Ni, he is a visionary, etc. But what he is using at least as Elliot is Ti. His inner dialogue with himself is Ti focused while what Mr. Robot suggests to him are basically Te (effective actions) out loud.

What this imaginary father-son duo is really good at is deciding what to do and using hacking as a means to get it done, not really at the vision. Because their collective vision as we can learn at different times seems to be proven flawed. Why and how? You have to really watch the show. If I tell you exactly at what point Elliot/Mr. Robots plans/visions seemed flawed and were later tweaked/corrected, then there is no point in watching the show at all. I cannot spoil it that much for you.

Is an INTJ’s vision ever flawed? INTJ’s are Ni- driven. Just like an INTP’s Ti, ENTJ’s Te is on point, an INTJ’s strategic vision is on point too.

Now, towards the end of the show, Krista tells her in his dream that how the mastermind self of Elliot has put the true Elliot in a loop.

Maybe if Elliot’s true self is an INTJ, because of his mental disorder, it has created many different shadow personalities like different windows, which is why his strategy had weaknesses since he even loses memory sometimes.

I know some of you might be thinking that a counter-argument to this is that Elliot is a mentally ill INTJ and his imaginary Mr. Robot is in fact an ENTP (just by going my yin yang father-son duo personality pair logic above). Yes, that is a possibility. But Mr. Robot doesn’t seem very ENTPish, in fact, I thought he is driven for accomplishing goals just like Tyrell Wellick is. Some might label Tyrell as an ENTJ as well, while others as an ISTJ (either way Tyrell is a Te focused achievement-oriented individual).

I read in another blog post that Elliot is an INTJ because of how he tries to discipline himself by putting himself into jail and creating an imaginary facade for a while to get rid of his imaginary Mr. Robot’s personality. But this process at the end doesn’t work! It is the same as if an INTP momentarily tries to frame himself in structure to accomplish something, but in the long run s/he cannot keep up with it since that is not who s/he is ( i.e not a judging type). The only habit which Elliot has autopiloted himself through is hacking almost everyone he comes into contact with to learn their secrets. This part seems like an INTJ thing (since INTJs have a tendency to autopilot through tasks which they believe work for them) but can also be viewed as an INTP Ti-Ne analysis process. Either way, this is a form of defense mechanism for Elliot! Why? Again, TMI. Go watch the show till the end.

If he is an INTJ then his INTJ self might be divided into many different subconscious levels because of his mental health issue.

Do you think an INTJ with ADHD is able to perform at his peak level? Then why would an INTJ with multiple personality disorder be their true INTJ self? Usually, Ne function users are prone to ADHD or multiple personality disorders because Ne function is responsible for the knack of mental exploration. Ne diverges from one point to many possibilities, while Ni converges from many perspectives to one point or a single goal. So while Ne users are prone to ADHD, Ni users (especially INTJ/INFJ) can develop OCD which is quite the opposite of ADHD.

So for now, I would go with “true” Elliot typed as an INTP, and not INTJ.

If you understand Jungian Cognitive Functions- just try to pair the true Elliot and his imaginary guide Mr. Robot as other opposite types which have not been discussed in this blog post.

For example- try to imagine Mr. Robot as an INTJ and Elliot as an ENTP or even ENFP. It doesn’t make sense. You might type Mr. Robot the dad as either INTJ/ENTJ since both are basically intro/extroverted version of each other in terms of cognitive functions, but it doesn’t make sense that Elliot is peppy and spunky like an ENTP/ENFP.

You might say that Elliot might be an INFP (a lost puppy child). INFP is the opposite of ENTJ in terms of letters. But even for a lost puppy child, he seemed pretty on point in terms of logic and skills.

I constantly see him using the Ti function and thinking through everything. So Elliot for me is an INTP. You are welcome to present your argument against mine in the comment section of this post.

Now, who is an INTJ in the show? I think FBI Agent Dipirro is a good example of a female INTJ. She could be an INFJ too, but unlikely. But she is Ni-dominant for sure. The first scene of her breaks out like how she is a lone wolf and secondly, she already connects the dots intuitively ten steps ahead in Romero’s murder scene. She has been correct with her hunches all along. She is alert, honest, driven, and investigative- most of these qualities are INTJ qualities. She also seemed to figure out the entire chain of people behind the five/nine attack and other ongoing E Corp targeted massacre.

If Agent Dipirro or Sherlock Holmes were in Elliot’s place and imagine they had normal mental functions, did they actually have to hack each individual to see what is in their personal records? Or would they already intuitively sense a lot of things about some people?

I am not saying that INTPs have the need to hack someone but INTJs don’t. Both Elliot and Dipirro have problems socializing. But they are dealing with the problems differently using their respective cognitive skills. Over time what worked for Elliot is hacking each person that he comes in contact with because he is not naturally hunch driven. He needs to analyze everything with his Ti. He is mostly lost in his mind due to his disorder. So he auto-piloted himself into certain types of things he normally does, hacking people and when almost getting caught burning any evidence.

If he really is an INTJ though he must have been using his shadow stacks all along since his Ni no longer works well. Since Ni comes with Se in a functional stack. For Ni to work properly one needs to be mindful. So an unhealthy INTJ can be just like him (a confused NT type).

Even the show narrated in a very ADHD (but albeit in a creative) way. The author, as I have read somewhere loosely based on Elliot’s character on his own.

He tied all the loose ends drawing a very detailed picture of the entire narrative. But his writing approach is very similar to how I once learned art in a fine art class. I used to have this hobby sketch/painting class, where the teacher taught me that if I struggle at one point drawing a picture, I should momentarily leave it and come back for it later. And at later attempts, it seemed easier as by now I had gained other perspectives by drawing other parts.

Even if Elliot himself is not an INTJ, the show writer might be a Fi developed INTJ who I am not sure if have had his own personal struggle of mental health issues. Regardless, he did a great job very carefully weaving and crafting the whole story of the show called Mr. Robot on Amazon Prime.

I think the real mastermind here is the show author Sam Esmail. He might be an INTJ, but not Elliot Alderson the protagonist.

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Thanks for reading. If you want me to review other shows/movies/videos or type some other characters, feel free to recommend me in the comment section. Also, read some other reviews I had done in the past like GoT.

Image Courtesy: Mr. Robot

Game Of Thrones- Season 8, Episode 3, and Avengers: End Game- What’s the catch!? SPOILER ALERT!!

Disclaimer: If you did not watch any of the aforementioned show/movies in the title, please go ahead and watch them. Because I am about to spill major spoilers ahead!

TL;DR

Grab a drink or some popcorns.

Okay, so I watched GoT Season 8, Episode 3 last Sunday and today (Wednesday) I watched the Endgame in the theater. First of all, I don’t like crowded places. So I always wait until Avengers/Marvel Movies or any good movies stay in the theater for a while. But even on a humpday (in the middle of a week), it was pretty crowded.

I wanted to write a separate series of articles just on GoT season 8. But today I cannot contain myself and I cannot wait until the next Sunday for another GoT episode or for season 8 to be over altogether. By then perhaps a lot of my question will be answered. But, I can update this post then and write other posts.

I am so glad I didn’t watch GoT season 1 through 7 on TV, trying to patiently wait for each Sunday. Instead in 2017, I literally binge-watched GoT all seasons and episodes except season 8 of course (which is airing right now). Hardly anything gets me very excited and gets all my hair raised these days. And thanks to the GoT author, casts, and crews- I had plenty of those goosebumps experience.

But this last Sunday when Season 8 Episode 3 happened, I lost all my words. Battle of Winterfell is the most well-done and beautiful battle I have seen in Game of Thrones. From the very beginning, I was completely glued.

But I just need to point out that Avengers: End Game has been released on April 22, 2019. And Game of Thrones Season 8, Episode 3 aired on April 28, 2019. I have not read GRRM’s Song Of Ice And Fire, upon which the show is inspired. But how likely it is that the screenwriters of GoT made last minute changes to the script? Maybe not. But is it possible that they somehow knew or had access to End Game’s storyline? Or maybe it is the other way around?

A number of fans are asking where was that “Azor Ahai” reference in the battle of Winterfell as the red witch aka Melisandre referred before. And some are pointing out how it was not Jon Snow, or Dany or anybody else but Arya Stark was being prepared for this very noble cause of killing the Night King in the show.

Probably in the next few episodes, more doubts about this will be cleared. For now, I can’t help but draw some parallels on the key point of both Avenger’s Endgame and GoT, SE08EP3.

First of all in EndGame, when Tony Stark aka Iron man gets a hold of the infinity gunlet and he destroys Thanos and his armies into ashes. The real question is how did he do that when it was clearly in Thanos’ possession? It almost seems like the movie might deliberately didn’t elaborate on this part. But just when Tony gets the emulated gunlet, he looks at Dr. Strange who points his index finger. What does that even mean? I think he helped Iron man in some way. But I did not understand how exactly. And then the movie goes on to a bit of unnecessary drag with other parts, especially with Captain America at the end. I am familiar with this type of storylines after watching many series on Netflix and everywhere. This usually means that there are more to it and will be perhaps cleared in the next installments of Avengers. Because we need to understand exactly what was Dr. Strange doing in that battle scene, or why did he even give the green stone to Thanos in the first place, when he is referred as the best among the Avengers by the Ancient One (his mentor-that bald lady)? There are already several fan theories online stating how he purposely did it because he anticipated there has to be a full-fledged battle against Thanos uniting all the Avengers. Did he also anticipate that they would have to go back in time? Alright! Enough of me spilling all the beans. But you should’ve stopped reading at the beginning if you didn’t watch End Game. Sorry!

Now can we draw a parallel between this and the GoT scene where the Night King is assassinated by Arya? The lady of light aka Melisandre-the red witch seemed to play a pivotal part in that episode. Even though she did a lot of wrongdoing in the past and was rightfully in Arya Stark’s hit list, she did her part to repent in this episode before she died. She helped the Dothraki solders by lighting up their swords with flames which helped kill a lot of white walkers, she also fired up the walls of that Winterfell fortress which created a shield against those deads for a while, and last but not the least she inspired Arya with some wise words which perhaps lead Arya to run where Bran was waiting for the Night King under the red tree.

But the real question here is, out of all the white walkers standing behind the Night King where did Arya come from? It seemed like she jumped out of nowhere. Did she climb up the red tree and was hiding in the branches? Was the Night King exactly under the red-leaved weirwood tree? I didn’t pay attention to it. Someone, please comment. Some people claimed online, Arya could be blending among the white walkers, wearing one of their faces after killing one of them since she is trained as “no one”- which sounds very unlikely. Because I am not sure you can blend among the white walkers being alive, ripping apart and wearing one of their faces. She almost dropped the dagger from one hand and caught coincidentally by another hand before stabbing Night King.

This spoiler showed that she actually did not jump from the tree above but from behind:

You can also read this well-written post, on how sudden this Arya Stark plot twist part was, it also talks about other loopholes in that episode:

Where did Arya jump from? The Game of Thrones battle was riddled with problems

Keep reading till the end for another of my twisting theory.

So the Night King who I assume was made out of ice could not be burned (since Dany could not burn him with dragon fire) but could be punctured and cracked with a pointy Valyrian dagger which is not even a dragon glass? I thought everybody was prepared with dragon glasses, but all it took was just stabbing the Night King with a dagger which not only killed him but took the lives out of all the white walkers at once.

But the parallel I am trying to draw here between the two franchise episodes is basically on a few points.

  1. Tony Stark vs Arya Stark? Same last names? Coincident much? I know it seems lame.
  2. Unclear assassination process both in the End Game and in Got SE8EP03. As if both of these characters were destined to kill the main villain, especially Arya Stark seemed to be chosen by the writers laters. Who read the real book by JRRM- The Song of Ice and Fire? Can anyone tell me, how did the Night King die in the actual novel? How did Tony Stark get a hold of the gunlet when Thanos was still holding it? How did Arya Stark appear in front of the white walkers behind the Night King?
  3. Was Dr. Strange the same to Tony Stark (Iron Man) as what the red witch aka Melisandre was to Arya Stark before they killed their respective villains- which is an influencer? Dr. Strange is a master sorcerer and so is the red witch.
  4. Thanos’ lifeline is connected to his entire army. Similarly, Night King’s lifeline is connected to his entire army of white walkers. Killing them kills their entire teams along with them. Isn’t it too coincidental that two of these major stream of fantasy series almost followed the same idea? Night-King burst into pieces of Ice when stabbed by Arya, along with his white walkers being collapsed simultaneously. Thanos powdered into ashes along with his entire army, when the Iron Man wore the gunlet.

Are you going lunatic by now reading my post? I am sorry if I am bringing too many cross-references. And I also apologize if I am misinformed about certain details or brought some wrong terms. Please provide your opinions, ideas and correct me in the comment section.

*Peace*

EDIT: I finished watching episode 4 of Got Season 8. I think the next episode will be about the war against Cercei, so the show might won’t have much time to go into detail about how Arya did it. But I will still keep you guys posted if there is anything new related to this.

So here we come about the last theory. I don’t know if you guys remember anything from Season 5 where Arya Stark was being trained as an assassin in the city of Bravos. There was the last scene (I forgot the episode) where Arya was just about to be killed in the dark cave where the light goes off. But instead in the next few episodes, we see Arya survived, meaning she was able to kill that girl. Is it possible that Arya is not the real Arya Stark but that other girl from that Bravos Training camp, posing as Arya wearing Arya’s mask who possesses supernatural skills of going invisible or appearing in places out of nowhere? Her only purpose is to fulfill Arya’s mission to avenge the people who did wrong to her/her families. Or did Arya learn a lot more than just killing and face shifting people in that weird place of Bravos defying the laws of physics?

Check this link from the past written around the time when this episode from season 5 aired:

I HAVE A CRAZY GAME OF THRONES THEORY—AND I’LL BET IT’S RIGHT

EDIT: No that theory is not right actually. You got what you saw. At least this is how it went for the last few episodes. You can read this:

Game Of Throne Season Finale Honest Review- (SPOILER ALERT!!)